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Good morning TJ, thank you for joining me. Yeah, it's my pleasure. It's my pleasure. Thank you for having me today. What a great audience. What a great crowd. I think everything you guys are doing here is awesome. It's just an honor. I was going to have to bump you today because Megan and Harry are coming on How Long Gone Later to air out their dirty laundry about the Queen, Harry and Kate, etc. I was going to get bumped from my own show. yeah unfortunately they requested that you not be here it was a little too many voices and they wanted you know they just wanted to kind of they felt a safe space with me they thought you were a little combative is what the press the pr told me three's a crowd four and it's a problem megan markle did bang my line and said she read fake accounts loved our interview um so it was it was it's good to hear from her um i was a big i'm a big fan of suits so it was nice i heard that she's been um bullying some people is that true At this point, not smiling and waving to someone is considered bullying, so it's tough for me to keep up. Whenever I see headlines like that, like the government is investigating claims of someone bullying someone, I'm like, okay. Never looking at anything like this again. We have sicked the FBI on this case. We did hear there was some bullying going on 25 years ago in high school, and we're not going to stand for it as this country. We will not sleep a wink until we get to the bottom of this. I mean, I think bullying, like I've always said, bullying, you know, made me the man who I am, and I wouldn't have been anywhere if I wouldn't have been a fat teen who was told that by meaner people. That's true, but also... Every generation of people have been saying that about their previous generation of bullies. It's just the bullying. And the bullying has only gotten lesser and lesser over the years. Imagine what a 50s or a 40s bully was like. Actually, I have to disagree with you on that, TJ. I think that it's actually gotten... I think it's now, unfortunately, it's unavoidable. Whereas in our generation, you would leave school and it's over. Now it's like you leave school and Snapchat, you're getting bullied. Twitter, you're getting bullied. Discord, you're getting bullied. Whatever social media network you're on, you can't escape it anymore. Whereas at least in our generation and generations before that, you weren't tethered to it.

like they are now to quote your fave tyler the creator what what the fuck is cyberbullying just turn your computer off you know tyler the creator is not the altar i worship at but um i see his i see his point it's basically the same the same point that you're making of you know at least you're able to leave school and find your safe your safe space to that point couldn't you just leave you know the discord chat if they're bullying you yeah yeah but i think what i'm i think what The point is that it's more vicious because it's unavoidable. And there's not a face to it. You're not having to look somebody in the eye and call them a fat retard. Well, I think the thing is if you get called, you know, I would get called fat in fifth period, but then I'd go home and I'm still fat, but no one's telling me that. Whereas like if I, you know, if I'm logging on because I'm trying to check out, you know, I'm just trying to use the internet because that's all we can do. And I turn on any social media network to talk with my friends who don't call me fat. It's unavoidable is what I'm trying to say. They can find your ass. They can hit you the 7-Eleven after school when they see you stocking. up on sugary candies and or or they can hit you on snapchat those are the best candies those are the best candies but yeah so anyway megan markle i mean look megan markle is the is the greatest she just undid like a thousand years of of british royalty like you know how good the pussy must be It took some C-list Canadian actress to undo a thousand years of monarchy. Whether it's good or bad, it's interesting that she's that powerful. She could topple an empire. She's toppled an empire. I think we've probably talked about this before, but I have a hard time. It's shocking, but I have a really hard time caring about the royal family and all the gossip that surrounds it. Give me about five minutes to pick my jaw up off the floor. I know, that's a big jaw. I do have a very big jaw. I can't. I just can't care. I find them all so boring. And it's just not compelling. And it's just like, I don't know, you're rich and kind of mean to each other. That's not that interesting.

maybe it was going to happen and and megan was just kind of like the straw that broke the camel's back because i think we've sort of hit the point with transparency of media and we don't need the fucking royal family anymore we don't need to care about what some random strangers are doing in a castle speak for yourself like who who gives a fuck if they were cool cool in the castle it'd be interesting but they're just there i mean it's also like what are they're gonna i mean what are they gonna do they're gonna come they live in la and they're gonna make tv shows and podcasts like That's not what we need. We don't need the Harry and Meghan podcast. Just like we don't need... That's a worse version of Barack Obama and fucking Bruce Springsteen's podcast. Yeah, we need a Posh Spice and... David Beckham. David Beckham. Yeah, if David Beckham and Posh Spice had a podcast, that would be something that I would be interested in hearing. Or Robbie Williams and whoever else. He's shagging at the moment. If we're going to get rich British people... Let's get ones that are at least interesting. Yeah, I just find these people so boring and they're not even that good looking. Like, I don't know if we're going to... Like, Prince William is fucking bald. Harry was hot in his time, but he's over the hill. Meghan Markle's a C-list actress. I do think that Kate's sister is bad. But Harry's chick before Meghan was bad as hell. I can't remember her name. It's so British, I can't remember it. Both of those guys just dated hot aristocrat, horse-riding Hermes chicks. And then they settled down. They're just not doing it right. I think that the hot horse-riding Hermes chicks... fun to look at but maybe maybe they didn't want to spend uh in an eternal existence with them brother that doesn't have to be eternal you're the fucking prince like just get rid of him when it's like who cares if it gets boring just move on at a certain point a prince has to turn into a king though chris you know i mean you got to settle down at some point they're never gonna

They're never going to be king. Well, Harry will never be king. Harry should be doing coke and living at the Chateau Marmont, in my opinion. That would be sick. Harry will never be king. William has maybe a chance. So what happens if none of the princes or the young gentleman candidates are king-worthy, then there's just no king? One of them has to be the king, right? It doesn't matter if they're worthy or not. It's a birthright. What I'm saying is William is the oldest. So then his son... would come before Harry. Do you understand what I'm saying? For somebody who doesn't care about the royal family, you should know a whole lot about it. I don't know any of these people. As you do know, Jason, I love hierarchies and gatekeeping. So this is just kind of the original of that. This is like the triple OG gatekeeping. Yeah, oligarchies, those are hot right now, but you're into... Yeah, I'm old school. I'm old school. I like my shit a little different with an accent, with a spot of tea. You know what I mean? Anything with Arky in it, I'm happy. I love to rack with the broskies. Catch me on the slopes. But, yeah, I mean, it's hating the news, say, because they're doing this big Oprah interview, which is just, yeah. We've got to promote the podcast, right? That's what they're doing? Yeah, they're promoting their new Netflix deal. Making the rounds. They've got a first- Look deal with Paramount Pictures, you know what I mean? Going to make some content, right? It's going to be so awesome. But I just, I don't know, man. It's just, it's not interesting enough for me. I don't know why. I guess them dissenting is just not that. It's not. Who is our American version of them? Is it Spencer? and heidi that's that's pretty much what the equivalent of they are right i would i wouldn't want to disparage spencer and heidi like that and spencer and heidi are are eons more interesting than whoever these people are you know yeah they're much more interesting but it's also because they've been allowed to to be themselves outwardly for so long we've been able to see the the the real the behind the curtain of uh

of spence and heidi um whereas the roy the royals have to keep it buttoned up they've been coddled like an egg not damn damn tj you didn't have to go that hard bro you know we had a great response from last week's episode of of tj's cheat day running through the laundry list of gut-wrenching ingredients well let's go we can we can do an abbreviated version of that because yesterday i was blessed with an invite from friend of the show zach namensky to go to the undefeated gym um yeah and i know you've been dying to go because you love undefeated i i love uh exceptional training facilities jason that's what this is this shit is decked the fuck out they got look if you jason if we get how long gone nike co-branded sandbags then then we can talk okay they got they got fucking they got the weights with the logos on it everything is just on point they got bottle they got bottle water with the logo on it that you just grab when you're thirsty it's an a plus experience i love chris moving to la and turning into an undefeated thought whoever would have thunk it dude i mean look if you invite me to an a plus gym and i get to work out with guys who are buffer than me and they're nice then i'm happy that's all i need what if it's a kith gym chris for example no no no no okay well you know i need to know where the line is drawn that's two very different things kith also kith is for fat people that's why they have an ice cream shop instead of a gym so think think about that jason also kith opened in paris what do people do in paris they eat bread i just like the simple quote kith is for fat people I mean, that might be a little extreme, but you know what I mean. But anyway, so I did this very hard descending ladder upper body workout that consisted of, I honestly, it's kind of crazy because I was surrounded by all these like tatted bros. And they were very encouraging to me. I did my heaviest dumbbell chest press I've ever done in my life yesterday. So when you see the pictures of Maddie Matheson with all the broskies at the Ruka gym, all these tatted-up hotties who are retired surfers, and now they just married some hot person. They have really cool children, and you're like, who are these guys? Now you get it. I get it. And honestly, when they were spotting me when I had my 90-pound dumbbells, I was just – I mean, it's a dream. And I looked happy because I was.

yeah that smile on your face being surrounded by hot buff successful tatted up bros that was an authentic authentic one but anyway so i get my i'm i'm pumped the fuck up i get a 20 i get a 20 smoothie and then you know i rush home uh no actually i had to hit creation um because of a time oh yeah i forgot creation has those there i don't like how the creation smoothie menu set up where like here are these like dumb ass broke ho smoothies it's six dollars it's like it's banana and ice water And they'll draw a picture of a blueberry on it. And then, oh, if you want an actual drinkable smoothie, yeah, those are $22, of course. I mean, they did have a crazy amount of adaptogens in it. It was good. I'd never had one before. It was good. But we were in a time crunch because I had to go. So I finished this great workout. I'm feeling really pumped up. I have a $20 smoothie full of adaptogens and other just highly beneficial. I can only imagine. And then I get a text from you. What kind of donut do you want? And I double check and make sure it's from you. And then I'm like, Jason, did you send this to the right number? You said yes. Jason, are you stroking out what's going on? Yeah, Jason. Who's the president? We go to Jam Store World Headquarters to help Sam, Jane, pack our tote bag orders that did go out. They will go out tomorrow. And you show up with a cup of gas station coffee and a couple apple fritters. That's right. You're welcome, Chris. And I don't know if that was the first thing you'd eaten that day. It was. It definitely was. My cheat day, my cheat weekend was less offensive than the last weekend for sure. But yeah, it was definitely a fritter. And then my life partner was entertaining some friends at the crib yesterday. So there was just a little meze platter going on. I had the time to make a quick roasted carrot hummus that really went down a treat.

for those of us asking these these simps do roast roasted garlic but tj's doing roasted carrot oh yeah yeah the carrots are roasted the garlic is roasted it's all thrown into the food processor with the garbanzos little tahini little lemon juice a little ice water that sounds delicious jason is that on i mean is that dune level would you say um dune's probably a little bit better because they're using really good quality tahini and i was using some broke hoe 365 but you know oh no we don't come on jason we don't talk we don't say 365 on this podcast i know i know the episodes where it's just the two of us i just feel extra compelled to be you know open and honest because i want i like that i want our listeners to be able to relate to that and be like you know what i mean you know if phoebe bridges can go to 365 well i would never go inside a 365 but i would use their product every once in a while if it's an emergency This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's trying to slow down. the news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world and i know you particularly have quite a lot of questions a lot of questions but how often because we do this podcast three times a week and that's a sweet spot how many times do they do three times a week and i i have a feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do that's just a guess the guardian is not some billionaire owned They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch it on YouTube. It's three times a week. And who couldn't use more news? Especially when it's not from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen. All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Quince. Jason, the temps are warming up. It's getting hot out there. Summer always changes how I get dressed. I need pieces that feel lighter, more breathable, and that are just easy, but still put together. I don't want to look like a slob. That's why I keep coming back to Quince. They focus on high-quality essentials that feel and look amazing. Breathable linen and soft organic cottons. Well-made basics, but without the luxury markups. That rare balance where everything feels elevated.

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honestly the real issue 365 is those cursed fridges they have that they like it feels proprietary like that they you know what i'm talking about they're like domed yeah and they slide on either side i just don't like that like the ones where like the little grab and go pick up things you get your sushi and coconut water shit Yeah, I just don't like those. I don't like how they work. It seems like an unnecessary innovation. You don't need to reinvent the cold freezer in a grocery store. Shit wasn't broken to begin with. Exactly. The hummus does sound delicious. Were you able to prepare anything else? Was there a shrimp cocktail available? That's just what I made. She made a little Greek yogurt. onion dip just a plain sea salt kettle chip was going in there and then she made some cucumber finger sandwiches wow speaking of british what goes into that is there a mayo though it's more of a you make kind of like a dill lemon cream cheese spread shit so you got a little cream cheese you can mix a little yogurt in there or a little mayo if you want And then, you know, some fresh herbs. Dill is perfect for it. Maybe a little super finely chopped shallot, salt, pepper, lemon juice. And then you just smear it on like peanut butter. And then you put some, you know, some sliced cucumbers on there. cut the crusts off, cut them into little triangles or rectangles, line up those rectangles just like an undefeated logo on the plate. Let's go. And the kids just come running. They love it. But were those light snacks, was that enough to satisfy a man of your stature after a day of putting tote bags into other bags? It was enough, but that's unfortunately not where the eating ended, Chris, and I think you know that. I had a feeling there was going to be more, and I have no idea where this is going, so please take us down the street. We were parked in the driveway. We were doing an outdoor hang. Why? Not everyone is a spreader, Chris. Oh, I got confused there. Sorry, I thought. I thought we'd already established that COVID was over. I was trying to let them know that COVID is Ovi, but they didn't love that. Have you seen the graphic going around that COVID is over if you want it to be John and Yoko? Yes, yes. That's a good one. I got nothing more. If you don't think that's funny, then whatever. I can't hear you laughing through your double mask and face shield. Could you laugh a little harder?

Yeah, I mean, if you hate the Beatles, that's fine. That's one thing. But that is an iconic piece of artwork. Iconic. And, you know, war was over if you want it to be. I think a lot of people hated that when that came out, and people probably hate this one too. So you're sitting outside, but your tummy's growling. Those appetizers weren't enough. Night has fallen. It's cold. It's dipped down into the 50, 55 degrees. So I had the puffer on. i had you know my heat tech was on i had my so you had the puffer on but let me let me let me guess you weren't able to put on pants were you no i was wearing i was wearing sweatpants oh wow shit okay it was cold glendale is different the valley is different i know it is it gets warmer and it gets colder but i had that and then um i was i was drinking some some nice natty ran out of cigs so then i was able to pull out my My anise cigar imported from equally from Davide and Pia. Shout out. Shout out to Davide and Pia. Great hosts. Those things smell delicious. How was it hitting? They taste delicious. It's a little mini cigar. They come in different flavors. So you weren't inhaling, though. You're treating this like a cigar. I was treating it like a cigar, yeah, because it is a cigar. So I was not inhaling it, but I was talking to my friend Dan, who's a cigar head, and he said that he'll do the inhale, keep it in his mouth, exhale, and then the last 15% of smoke will just do a little tickle, a little cheeky inhale. A little, and then on the way out. So I did that a couple times. But it tasted great. It was sweet, nice and easy. It was a digestive flavor. Highly recommend it. Just to be clear, that's not an appetite suppressant. So what did you stuff into your gullet after you were a little drunk? Everyone was like, oh, we're hungry. Let's order some food. And they were like, let's get some pizza. Should we get some Shake Shack? And I was like, I fucking hate Shake Shack. So Papa John's it is. No.

We hit the Del Taco. Del Taco run. Oh, Jesus Christ. This took a turn for the worse. Took a turn for the best. It was great. I mean, I had to make the best out of a situation. The last thing I want to do is eat. food you know in my driveway while i'm freezing but you know it is what it is we spent like 50 there and got an assortment of chicken soft tacos bean and cheese burritos we i went bold we know so you filled up you filled up the the nissan truck bed with a a smorgasbord of low rent low quality mexican food from a fast food restaurant chris come on This is a Latinx friendly podcast. You're right. But I just don't. Can you imagine me being in a group and being like, hey, we're just going to hit Del Taco. Is that cool? Like, no, it's not cool. Like, I'm not going to eat that. Was there no one that was like, hey, can we maybe not? Can we get a salad? Is there anything? No, no, no. Because it was a group. It was cold, and we're all drinking. I was just drinking. Nothing like a comforting soft taco to make me feel warm in the winter months. Somebody made a joke, or somebody suggested, oh, should we order some sweet green? And then everyone laughed hysterically. That's kind of just to set the mood of where the food narrative was at. The next question is, and I don't want you to name names, but what do these people look like? Nobody was fat. Nobody was fat. But there's just a lot of – you're not the target demographic for anyone eating fast food, Mexican comfort food, stony grinds. No, no. And I think everybody – look, everybody should do whatever the fuck they want. I'm joking. But my issue is – I just wouldn't, it really, it's not even about weight. It's about how bad I feel after I do stuff like that. That's what the issue is. It's not about, it's really not about like caloric intake. It's about like, I'm going to feel bad for 24 hours if I eat something like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But sometimes, you know, you got a little Stockholm syndrome with feeling bad. You know, like I used to love, I'm like, I'm hung over right now, kind of. And you like it.

I mean, for right now, I like it. As long as I don't have to do anything against my will when I'm hungover, then I'm totally fine with it. I actually kind of miss it, and I liked it because it was fun for me to be hungover. Back when I was going out and drinking and DJing and partying all the time, it was kind of like, oh, I don't want to be hungover because I'm going to have a headache. My stomach is going to hurt. I'm going to feel drowsy. nauseous and all that stuff but then if you don't have anything to do if you're just i guess we could like see a movie and you know go go to chili's or something then it's pretty fun you just you're silly you're loopy you're walking around You want to go watch a movie? You want to take a nap? I wondered why you didn't respond to my text asking if you want to do some interval sprints this morning, but now I know why. Yeah, I don't like being hungover, but now it's weird. Now that I'm older, when I get hungover, I still wake up 6 a.m., bright-eyed, bushy-tailed, ready to seize the fucking day. i'm cruising i'm pumping i'm doing all my shit and then around three o'clock just the crash happens can't even like keep my eyes open yeah no i don't i never get a headache i never get like nausea that's good but it's i just get so tired all i want to do is just lay on the couch and then you know watch some bad tv fall asleep for an hour order some food like it's just very comforting if i had a weighted blanket i would probably use it but i don't i i I do sometimes if I don't get enough sleep, that's as close as I feel to hungover at this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't, I kind of, I know what you mean. Like I kind of like it for a certain amount of time and I'm like, okay, like I got to drink my pre-workout and get pumped up. Yeah, it's kind of like a poor man's version of a downer or just, you know, like whatever something somebody might do. Hold your breath.

So you start getting lightheaded, you know, a cheap and simple high. Yeah, I like to stand up fast now. That's kind of my thing. You know, I just jump up as fast as I can, see if I get a little dizzy. If you're in NA, that's one of the best highs you can get, probably. I just jump up, you know what I mean? It's not the same, but it's not bad either. You know, it's not bad either. It's cheap and free, like my other thrills. It's an honest high for an honest day's work. Exactly. Well, how do you, did you, you know, in a group of that size, the order is quite large. Did you end up consuming? maybe more del taco than you wanted to of course but i i i had the i had the smarts or somehow this is something that i've never done like i've been with friends and they'll do like postmates roulette have you heard of that nope i'm assuming it's not a we hang out no we hang out with a different type of person than i guess okay so that's when you're like you're we're with a group of people let's say there's like four people And you're going to like, oh, like everyone's going to get together and watch the Golden Globes or Ultimate Fighting is on or whatever it is. You're hanging out. Everyone's hungry. And nobody's able to sort of like decide on what they want to eat. You know, like nobody can get on the same page. So then you do a Postmates roulette where each person orders Postmates delivery from a different restaurant, whatever they really want. You can order whatever you want and just whatever you truly are feeling. Sure. So you can order it, you know, unabashedly without being like, oh, is everyone okay with Baja Fresh? Like you can just order wherever and you don't tell anyone what you got. And it's just a pure mystery until it shows up. And the doorbell rings, you open the door and then like, oh shit, somebody got. um subway or something you know like whatever it is and then i don't like i don't like that everyone gathers all their food together on the table and then everyone just eats you know so you're like oh we're having thai food pizza subway and bro who is ethiopian what fucking 22 year olds are you hanging out with who fucking does that what adult what what third over 30 year old people with brains and income it's funny it's a it's like a funny that's not funny it's a funny thing to do you know because it shows

up and you're just like ding dong who could it be you know it's like mr rogers or something like that who who could be at the door and then another another over overrated order yeah mr rogers and rb's are both overrated and then somebody somebody's like oh i just i got i had the presence of mind to get dessert for everyone you're like oh thank god you did that or like somebody else you know I ordered a troll order that we're all going to hate, but it's going to be funny type of thing. See, that's not funny. That's just not funny. It's like stand-up comedy. It's not working for me. Comedy is not funny. That's another good quote for you, Chris. I guess the other thing I'm constantly forgetting is that this only happens when everyone is stoned. No, no, no. This happens when you don't hate your life and yourself. You know what? This is the food version of a board game. It's boring. This is some 35-year-old white people, boring-ass liberal Biden shit that you guys... Yeah, it's like, well, we've exhausted things to do. We've had a little bit of wine. There's nothing left for us to talk about. And we're so boring that we need to make a game out of eating. That's what this sounds like to me. Yeah, I mean, you're... i can't disagree with all of that you're not wrong but it's less of we need to because i'm i'm postmates postmates for humanity is what this sounds like it's i mean you know for a person who eats go macro bars for breakfast lunch and dinner this is not the type of thing that i would expect you to be into but and i also agree that it is the type of activity for bored and boring people in their 30s who have nothing to do nothing to talk about But I enjoy doing it and I'm not one of those people who is, I never get bored. If something gets boring for me, I make it not boring. And I enjoy doing this every once in a while, especially if you have a good group. Like if I was hanging out with Maddie Matheson and TJ and then some other like cool, fun food people show up. And we're all doing that. We're all stoned as hell. Sounds like a funny, fun thing to do. Especially to have you be there watching you squirm around as we're eating. Yeah, I'll bring over. Next time we hang out, I'll make sure to bring over the Monopoly Millennial Edition for you, too. Just so you can have a little more fun. No, because we would all do it. I would order like.

12 in and out french fries or something like that that would be like a funny thing to do maddie's ordering del taco and then you order like mcafe kelp noodle salad for everyone and everyone has a laugh you know you're showing your personality and then you actually eat a couple fries because it sounds funny this is maddie matheson's like oh these kelp noodles are actually kind of bomb and then and then that's how you know i think america's a melting pot chris and this is a great way to bring all cultures together Stop pitching your bad TV show idea on our podcast. I don't have time for this shit, bro. We have other stuff to talk about besides this bad, your bad millennial trend setting you're trying to do. unbelievable a natty wine and a fun food ordering game what a fun weekend we had like a great we had a great weekend we went to the farmer's market and then like yeah we went to we went to cookbook picked up some stuff but then actually like we got a little bit stoned like we had some edibles right and then we didn't know what to eat so we all just ordered something different and yeah jason called it postmates roulette so yeah it was so fun it was so you know what you sound like bro he um He sat in his bedroom alone, laid in bed, and watched YouTube videos of the 90s, and then ate a Go macro bar and went to bed at 745. Wasn't that awesome? Still better. I steal better. At least I didn't bring anyone. His mind. At least I didn't bring all my friends down with me. At least I died alone with pride. I would rather die on that hill. That's pretty funny, though. I picked out whatever my workout, what my outfit was going to be for berries tomorrow, drank water for dessert, went to bed at 745. I mean, look, you saw me yesterday sucking on a gallon. You know what I mean? It's nothing for me to put down some water. I like when you get into workout black mode. where because normally you're only drinking a fiji or an arrow on bottle of water but when when you when you have to hit the undefeated gym with the broskies yeah you you do a rare arrowhead water which is something i think very off it's because

Well, I wasn't proud of it, but if you stop at a gas station in East LA, what else is there? They don't have what I'm looking for. I like that Silver Lake is East LA. Once you pulled up into the barrios of... I found a neighborhood called Los Feliz. And I went in and I had to move all the horchata aside. And I said, pardon, pardon. Tiene agua. No, they didn't. Como se dice? No, this is because I stopped for the water close to the studio because after my pump, I was feeling extremely, extremely thirsty. So I was like, I'm going to be sitting with these two idiots and it's a good stable time with the bathroom right there where I can just really suck down this water and make sure I'm hydrated. No, I'm not hating. I think anytime you're a workout person and you show up with the gallon of water. Be it the big jug with the sippy sport cap or just an arrowhead from the gas station. It's a sign that you're going to do some grown man business. You're going to do some serious work. And never fuck with people who show up to the gym with the gallon. They will ether you on site. As much as I love the gallon. Unless it's Chris. Yeah, exactly. As much as I love hydration. That was the first time I've maybe ever done it in public yesterday. I can't take it to the gym. I do it at home. Basically, I finish my workout, I have the gallon on deck, and then I sip through the day. But I try to get done mid-afternoon. I think it's a good look for you to show up amongst the blue-collar workout folks and show them that you're just an everyday... I'm just a guy like them. An everyday Joe Gymret. It has a very Yang Gang energy. Hola, fellow workouters. I, too, enjoy the fine waters of Arrowhead. First of all, there's nothing I want to put off less than Yang energy, so I'll make sure to never do that again. But I do. You make Yang look cool, Chris, and you should own that. Fuck you.

Fuck you. The thing is, all these people on the internet are using these corny gallon water bottles that have encouraging phrases on them as you sip more water. And I'm just like, you can't steal the swag from the workout community and then make it corny. It's like painting your room millennial pink or something. It's crazy. Yeah. If you have a jug of water that says, I'm about to make Monday my bitch, you're definitely not going to make Monday your bitch. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Stick to the 99 cent if I can. You know, 365 Whole Foods brand spring water is my kind of go-to. You heard it here first. Yeah. Move over, strategist. Exactly. I hit Whole Foods. You should do a strategist post top 10 gallons of water. Well, out here, it's funny because I think just because LA is so dry, but you see people at Whole Foods with a cart full of gallon jugs. That's really common to see, and I don't see that anywhere else. Like alkaline water specifically. Yeah, whenever I see the person with the gallon, I'm like, oh, this person does boxing. You're doing a cool, badass workout, like boxing, something like that. Are you saying that what I'm doing is not cool or badass? No, no, no. You're doing some big work. You're not actually punching people, but you're doing a boxing level of athleticism, and you should be proud of yourself. Yeah, I don't want to punch people. I just feel like boxing is really interesting to me as a workout because I think it's very difficult, and I think once you get it, the rhythmic part of it seems like fun. But I don't know. I just can't. I've got to try it, I guess. I've literally never done it. I've never done a class. I've never done kickboxing or done any of it. Have you tried it? I did a kickboxing class once, and it ended very badly. I kicked the heavy bag, and I hit it in the wrong spot of my shin, and then my ankle. like the skin bubbled up. It looked like I got punched in the face or something like that. And the instructor was like, yeah, don't, uh, we should probably just stop for today. I mean, like it was like a, like a, like a blood, blood cyst type of thing.

Damn. It's appealing to me. I have a lot of leg power. Hashtag fixed gear. Those sticks aren't doing much, bro. While we're talking about your legs, one of my favorite topics, we should talk about your knee injury. We were supposed to play tennis today, but Jason has hurt himself a little bit and it's flaring up. I just wanted to make sure. Are you feeling better today? I know you have the acupuncture appointment tomorrow, but how are you feeling today? I'm feeling 100% better than I was. yesterday i think what happened was i i'm nice i'm learning that yeah i know thank god but i'm learning that wearing wearing when i wear the knee brace it works better when i'm wearing the knee brace just just being around the house cruising but if i work out if i go for like a long walk or i do a kettlebell or a jump rope or whatever session with the knee brace on it actually ends up making it feels better while it's happening but when i take it off and for the rest of the day it gets like really inflammation inflamed and and painful So I think I had to kind of learn the hard way how that all works. But I'm feeling much better. I think by tomorrow, once I get my acupuncture sorted, I will be able to go back to beating you at tennis with ease. Thank God. Thank God. I wanted to have a nice Sunday. It's an overcast day here in L.A., so I'm glad we skipped it. Plus, I'm just really busy today. Oh, really? Yeah, just Sunday because you went to church. Did you go to the sunrise service? No, no, no, no. No church for me. edit and upload a bunch of other podcasts for some other people today just sometimes the sunday gets real busy oh i forgot yeah you yeah oh i forgot monday is your set sunday right that's what you say you're one of those yeah monday is my sunday baby classic classic cocktail waitress Yeah, I am a stewardess. I am a DJ. I'm a cocktail waitress. I'm front of house and back of house TJ. My life is not like yours. No, it's really not. We are the yin and yang, no Andrew, of podcasting. The problem is now that I have met Chris Black and adopted his work hard, live hard lifestyle, when I do have my Monday...

my monday off which is then my sunday i'm i don't have time to do anything i want i don't have time to do stuff i want let alone stuff i don't want to do you know so like from my for my monday day off it's like oh i have to like you know change this light bulb and fix that thingy and i like to send i like to send over a google doc of your chores uh sunday night so that you kind of you kind of know what you're getting into because i don't like you to wake up surprised you know that's kind of i'm kind of a nice guy in that way yeah you're actually of all the all the producers that i work with you're really good at sending those call sheets early because i hate getting them last minute and i'm like oh i'm about to watch the fucking woody doc and now i gotta go through the spreadsheet no i you know i i did watch some new um netflix content last Last night, the Mormon thing. The Mormon thing. So you didn't watch Jazz, my dog trainer, bro? I'm never going to watch that. Unfortunately, though. Chris Brick. Yeah, Netflix's Murder Among the Mormons is what it's called. It's a true crime thing, but I had no idea. I mean, I don't know much about the Mormon faith except they're all hot. They are not all hot. They're pretty hot, though. They care about their appearance more than fat Christians. You know what I mean? Okay, okay. I get it. They're known for that. So hotter than Christians. But the weirdest part about this is it was made by the director of Napoleon Dynamite. which is really funny. And I didn't, I didn't know that, which is so sick. He contains multitudes, but it's just, I just didn't know. It's, it's basically about these guys that are uncovering. I mean, I don't want to give it away, but it's basically about like a Mormon documents and how important all these documents are to the history of the religion, all the scrolls and shit. Exactly. Because they like prove things, but then obviously that, that comes with a caveat and there's, there's issues and you know, blah, blah, blah, you know, but, but, but the apex is like a bombing murder. So it's pretty interesting. When you say bombing, are we talking about like freights? No, we're not talking about fill-ins. We're talking about me showing up and dropping off a package at your house that says Jason Stewart and you open it and then it blows up and you die. Mormons be crazy, bro. Jesus, yeah, the Church of Latter-day Saints. But it's kind of about forgery and money and murder and just freaks. It's good. It's good so far. So you liked it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I haven't finished it. Orgery hive, stand up. Because I did, of course, fall asleep at 845. So I did miss some of it. But we plan to finish it today. It feels right to finish it on the Lord's Day. Were you friends with any Mormon people growing up or currently now? I didn't really know any Mormons growing up. I don't know if they have a stronghold in the South. I don't think they do. You know what I mean? So I don't think that's part of it. But I don't think I know any. I mean, besides the killer. I don't think I know any. Are they all Mormon? Just the hot ones? I think... I think Brandon Flowers definitely is. I don't know about the rest. I think there's a lot of Mormons in Hollywood, though. I knew a lot of Mormon people growing up when I was in high school. Next door to Huntington Beach has a city called Fountain Valley, and there's, for some whatever reason, a stronghold of Mormons over there. I just don't really understand what they believe in, to be honest. I haven't ever looked into it. I mean, it is kind of like a subdivision of Christianity or Catholicism, but it involves one guy. Yeah, it's got the guy. of the doc is like there's just like one guy which is always yeah it's basically that guy kind of like broke off or branched off and and wrote sort of his version of of the way the bible should be so it's kind of like it's very similar but there's a few other different things and then i know there's like the weird stuff with like fucking through a through a sheet so you don't see the person and like there's like weird stuff with losing your virginity that just sounds like a ghost fetish to me for those of us who have one it's a great way to kind of skirt around that I know that you're a sheet hive. The sheet stays on in Glendale. Every single person I know who was a Mormon, you would hang out with them in middle school when you're 11 or 12 and be like, oh, the Mormon kid's just kind of weird. They all look the same. Mormons also usually have a big head for some reason. Big old Mormon melanoma. I need to look into my lineage then because if that tracks, then I'm definitely Mormon. The parents will let...

their kids hang out with the mormon kids but you kind of have to keep an eye on them there's always something off with them but it was never like a dangerous thing it'd be like he might be into like lighting fires a little too much or something like that and then once you hit the high school age it's kind of it was kind of like boy scouts with me Once you hit the high school age, you're like, oh, I can't be into this stuff anymore if I'm going to be trying to get my dick wet and have cool friends. I have to stop being into tying knots and going to camp. And I have to start learning how to skate and play guitar. Thank God. And I think it's the same thing with Mormonism. All my Mormon friends and people I knew, once you get to high school, they kind of grow out of it because they realize if you stick with a life of Mormonism, you're going to turn out into a goddamn freak. Yeah, you're going to turn into a freak. But yeah, I'm going to finish it. It's a three-part series, so it's a light lift. But I mean, I wanted to also talk about some stuff that's a little more serious and it's going to disappoint you pretty greatly. I love serious talk, Chris. Let's get into it, baby. I'm just hung over enough. I mean, one of the bands that I know that you've kind of idolized for years, and you play a lot in the Tesla when you pick me up, and we play it a lot as outro and intro music for this podcast. Don't say it. Don't you dare say it. Mumford & Sons. The Mumford & Sons banjo player have, unfortunately, he has endorsed Right Wing Troll. And it's going to affect our relationship to the music. I can't separate. I can't separate. Andy Nijo, I guess, he wrote a book called Unmask Inside Antifa's Radical Plan to Destroy Democracy. And Winston Marshall, the banjo player from Jason's favorite band Mumford & Sons on Twitter said, finally had the time to read your important book, You're a Brave Man.

Okay, so it was a book basically saying that the group that is against fascism is bad. I assume that there's multiple banjo players in Mumford & Sons. Actually, no, I think Winston Marshall is the only banjo player. So the string section of Mumford & Sons thinks that he's got a lot of interesting ideas. Yeah, it seems like, look, he's just saying it was a good read. I don't know if it's a full endorsement. It's not a full endorsement, but the book is doing important work. Yeah, exactly. Because Antifa is going to ruin our country. Retweets are not endorsements, as they say, Jason. You know what I mean? I think you can choose to read this as you want, but I just wanted to soften the blow and tell you about it. I want you to hear it from a friend before you heard it from a website. Yeah, I saw a little bit that Mumford & Sons was trending, but I did not. I'm always afraid to click on it because I fear that it could... As Mumford fans, this day is always around the corner. It could happen at any time. But it makes you wonder, how does a band of that size not have the PR in control of something like that? It's the banjo player, bro. This guy probably doesn't even get cut in on profits. You know what I mean? This guy is not involved in the publishing deal. You know what I mean? But it's always those people who, with the least to lose, are the ones who let it spray the most. Mercifully, the book has now been blurbed by both Winston Marshall, the banjo player from Mumford & Sons, as well as esteemed television host and talking head Tucker Carlson. So you can pick... You can show your allegiance to either of those gentlemen by purchasing this book if you are interested in that. Again, retweets are not endorsements. Look, Tucker, he's great. We all know that, right? He's a great orator. Yeah, exactly. That's what David Cho says. Yeah, exactly. He says, say what you want about the guy's politics. The guy's a great orator. And I'm like, you know what? I never noticed that, David, but I guess, you know.

I see it. I guess I see some. It is a hot take, though. It is. It's very. I mean, it's dangerous, I would say. Incendiary. Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to read this book. I've just got a stack on the bedside that's just a little too deep right now. The most fascinating thing about social media is that people in positions of power that have a lot to lose cannot stay off it. You could read this book and you could enjoy it and believe all of it, but if you know this is going to fuck up your pockets, why don't you talk to your other friends? Get on your Discord and talk to your friends. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like when the Kardashians fucking videotaped the vacation in the middle. You could just go on vacation and no one would know and it doesn't matter. You don't have to put up the thotty photo from the resort to tell everyone that you're at the villa in Mexico. You don't have to do that. Even these low-level influencers do that. You're going to fuck up your bag because you just can't resist the post? It's crazy. When you're in a band of that size like Mumford & Sons, it's the same thing as when you're employed by a large company. If you say something like that that's going to piss everyone off, Mr. Mumford is going to have to be like, you know how do you want to do this do you want me to write your letter of resignation or do you want to do it like like you you're the banjo player like we can replace you it's time to walk the plank you know if you say if you say some shit obviously it's going to have a big backlash and festival bookers might drop us and fans are going to tweet about it like it's real easy to lose you because you are not necessary right now unless he is Maybe he really is that good of a banjo player, and he's like, I wish you would try and quit me. I am this band, bitch. Unfortunately, I believe there are session players that could take his place. They might not have to look down. They might not look like a chimney sweep enough, but we can fix that. You know what I mean? We can fix that. Moving on from that tragic news, but we did have some better news, and that's the announcement of Furnace Fest in Birmingham, Alabama.

that I attended, I believe, in high school, but the lineup... I had never heard of it. It only happened a couple times, if I remember correctly. But Birmingham, obviously, is super close to Atlanta, so it was an easy one for us. It could go for the day. You know what I mean? I didn't even know they had enough of an infrastructure to have a music festival in Alabama. Birmingham is actually quite sophisticated, and there's a lot of money there. Look, we'll talk about flyover states, but southern states, we need that stronghold for our upcoming tour. That's true. But to get back to the point, Furnace Fest, September 24th, 26th. I mean, it's absolutely stacked. We're talking, we've got Taking Back Sunday, for God's sakes. You know, we've got 18 Visions, Jason's favorite. We've got, I mean, Further Seems Forever, you know, former guest of the show. Cartel, my former client, is fucking playing. Code 7, one of the shittiest hardcore bands to ever exist, has reunited for this. Stretch Armstrong, one of the worst bands I've ever seen live over and over, has reunited for this. Shai Halud, Underappreciated Legends, May Day Parade, Turnstile, Current Day, we got Hot Water Music, Boy Sets Fire. It's Hatebreed, Jason's other favorite. Me Without You, Phoebe Bridger's favorite is on this. So it's a stacked lineup, but Jason, I'm seeing a glaring omission from this lineup. And I think you see it too, don't you? Yeah, it is the how long? on stage the how long on stage is just not on the flyer and and unfortunately unfortunately jason and i are going to work diligently this week we need to get added to this bill yeah i how long gone you have if our listeners have any ends with this with this music festival. Send our name to whoever you need to because we are happy from this. Send our EPK to the booking agent because the fact that we are not sandwiched between, you know, the Get Up Kids and Hatebreed, who else could do that? What other podcast could appear here? I think maybe we should actually, should we just host the whole thing? You know, like a radio DJ would do at the Christmas show. Yeah.

Like of the almost acoustic Christmas? Yeah, it's like Chris and TJ come out. We're like, yeah, up next, the casket lottery. You know what I mean? We just get it popping. Wow. Is that not a good idea? Andrew WK, ladies and gentlemen. Wasn't that something? I think, look. Keep it going for under oath. Not only. Keep it going for under a – give a clap for the higher power in the house tonight. I think that we could either host it. I think we could do How Long Gone live from Furnace Fest. We could also go and just interview a handful of these artists for the Furnace Fest YouTube or TikTok page. Yeah, I think what we want to do for this is something kind of similar to the Bravo pre-award show kind of thing. We'll do the red carpet looks. We'll talk to everybody and figure out – what to do like how fat everyone got you know how how their tattoos didn't age well how long gone live from the furnace fest red carpet is a i mean if that isn't a sell-in to to countless sponsors liquid death go ahead and bang our line um i was just gonna say what what brand is gonna have to uh power this activation i'm thinking i'm thinking i'm thinking cash app mcbeth footwear liquid liquid death liquid death canned water um i don't know i mean that might be enough honestly i i don't know if we i don't know if we need more than that there's a couple glaring errors already on this look i mean whose idea was it to have taking back sunday play on saturday like that's taking back why not have them play on sunday guys take what kill switch kill switch engage just couldn't make those dates switch maybe it was too on the nose they felt you know what i mean but i just Honestly, I felt the disrespect I felt from not being included in this. There's no other podcast. There's no other people that could host this. Who else knows piebald songs and is on Spotify? Maybe Spotify gets involved and we maybe get down there. What's the guy's name? Daniel Elk? Let me call him.

Get elk on the horn. There's a little bit of a time difference. There's this band called Zayo. They don't have a ton of monthly streams right now, but I think... I think we should, look, if Evergreen Terrace can play this, we can play this. Honestly, when I look at the lineup on this, I feel like an hour, a 45-minute how-long-gone live podcast at Furnace Fest is more appealing than I would say 98% of the bans on this list. You know what? I've been talking a lot about the NFTs and all that stuff. I'm going to make my first NFT, which is going to be... get a one one of one unique video of 18 visions kicking my ass for 15 minutes. I'll just sit there hands tied behind my back and 18 visions kicks my ass. I'll start the bidding at $78,000. to make to sweeten the pot though for that you have to be dressed up like 18 visions while they beat your ass so you can't just you can't go in there with your arteric shorts and your cowgirl sweatshirt we need you in a studded studded belt skin tight jeans bangs that are blue and a lot of jewelry okay i need to see if the diesel store is open on sunday because i have a lot of shopping to do Luckily for you, Jason, 18 Visions and Them Jeans, both big fans of the sleeveless tee. So you already have that going for you. They will hopefully pull a few punches knowing that we are both having our guns out. I mean, look, if we are unable to perform due to other contractual obligations or the Furnace Fest booking team is not able to meet our... our ask, which is small monetarily, but it is first-class travel for us and security, as well as two hotel rooms at the Four Seasons Birmingham, as well as... It might just be three of the seasons. Exactly. It's two seasons in Birmingham. But then we will also... We'll be flying into Hartsville, Jackson, Atlanta to visit my parents, of course, so we'll need a car service to and from. Escalade preferred, late model, suburban, if an Escalade's not available. And I don't mean...

to let the listeners into this kind of negotiation background but this is kind of this is unfortunately we felt so disrespected that we had to take this online yeah and that is our last and final offer furnace fast yeah this is we don't we don't need a green room because we'll be in and out so fast that we actually won't even have time to drink the mountain valley yeah so don't worry about it Jason's going to take his bottle of Casamigos in the car. I will have provided red solo cups that do have the little chalkboard so he can write his name on it with his finger. Yeah, and if my mixers are warm, there's going to be hell to pay. I won't go on stage. But otherwise, I think this is a pretty fair offer. And I think that, look, if they can't bump Scary Kid Scaring Kids for how long gone... then I think your festival is truly, truly fucking up in a major, major way. It's time for you to take a good hard look in the mirror, Furnace Fest, if that's where your priorities lay. I know the Furnace Fest organizers are probably still at church right now, but when they listen to this podcast, it's a strong talking to. We didn't mince words, Jason. We did not mince words, much like the lyrics of From Autumn to Ashes. Not a word was minced. Not a word was minced, and that's how we're going to keep it. And that's also what we bring to the stage. That's what we bring to the stage. Some of these other live podcasts, it doesn't really hit the same, Jason, but I think we can keep – I feel confident that we can keep this energy on the road, and I hope you feel the same way. I do, and I have been wondering now that venues are opening back up. I think April 1st in Cali, they're going to start having high-long-gone-sized locations opening back up, like Daughter Stadium and things like that. Of course, at a limited capacity, but it's time we've had to start. I've had to start ideating what the live show was going to be. We've been meeting with various agencies, Kanye's lighting guy. He won't leave us alone. Just trying to figure out how do we take what this is and make it, you know, a stage show that is unforgettable. I know. I watched that Beyonce doc again. I was like, we can do this. I mean, this is not, you know what I mean? This is not like, obviously. Yeah, Homecoming, Homecoming tour. The How Long Gone Homecoming tour.

It's not going to be a problem for us. Luckily, because of our deep connections in the music world, we are able to get the greatest front of house sound, stage design, movement coaches. It's not going to be an issue for us to bring a really quality performance that's going to make the $300 VIP ticket worth it. If you do pay the extra $200 for the meet and greet, like I said, you can touch Jason. touch me um and we take the photos hotter that way we get final approval um so so don't bring your little sister in that's sick and say she went no we don't care um you know we get we unless she paid for a ticket yeah unless and everybody's paying 200 on the dash um and and there are no exceptions that rule uh if you do want guest list um definitely hit jason do not hit me i will be giving no guest list passes out drink tickets you already know jason's got those yeah if you want to get backstage you're gonna have to dump them out fellas you know what i'm saying i need to see i need to see a little skin and you know i know beyonce in that video didn't she have like She had a whole 100-piece marching band. That was the vibe for it. We're going to have to hire the My Chemical Romance blank parade. Yes, the Black Parade. The Black Parade, the Furnace Fest version of that drum line. Damn. Hosted by Travis Barker. He's the drum line conductor. Travis Barker is actually... The finale of the How Long Gone Live at Furnace Fest will be a Jason Stewart, Travis Barker DJ live drum set. Like we're at LAX in 2008. Could you imagine? Yes, I could. I close out the stage on Sunday like Daft Punk at Coachella in 2007. Bro, if you weren't there, you weren't there. I'm sorry. You can watch the video of it, but when them jeans and Travis Barker did their two-hour set, hookahoma get wicked. I was absolutely levitating when Jason and Travis Barker did that ACDC mashup. I just absolutely lost my shit. The molly kicked in. I saw Jesus. Yeah, A-Track was in the front row. He was doing the I'm not worthy, Wayne's World thing to me. Oh, man. Trizzy.

Thank you for supporting. Trizzy, always. Thank you for supporting a real scratch master. Oh, yeah. And Trizzy, get in touch. We could negotiate the rights for Fool's Gold to release that live set on Gatefold 12-inch. My connections are mostly in kind of the rock world, so we do need some help in the EDM community. The rock world. Also, warp. If you want it, you can get it too. But anyway. Oh, man. I mean, I'm excited now, Jason, because I think this is really going to happen. I think come September, this will be the finale of our tour, really. This will probably be the closing. Basically, we're just going to route the tour through all the states that are opening. So we'll get in touch with all the local officials, find out who's opening next, and then we're set. All the local officials. Yeah, I'll bang the line of some local officials, and we'll get the intel. And then we'll just be hitting all these states as they come. doing a couple shows, doing a couple meet and greets, going to some local eateries, shaking hands with fans. Pounding the pavement. Exactly. Hopefully patronizing some local boutiques. And then we'll end it in Atlanta. We'll have a nice dinner with our parents. And we'll take the Escalade to Alabama to really shock the world. Chris, I mean, it's time that we need to stop this podcast immediately. Go by the URL of the name of our tour. The South will pot again. Yeah, exactly. That's definitely what it is. Because these liberal northern states, they might not open until 2025. You know what I mean? I don't know. Delaware, it could never open again. I don't even know. You know what I mean? Unless it's Maine. It's going to be a while before we're up to those damn Yankee states. I'm praying for us. I'm praying for the Furnace Fest, guys, because the negotiations are going to be tough. I'm praying for the Mormons. I'm praying for my stomach the rest of the day. I'm always praying for your stomach. I'm always praying for your stomach. Yeah, so I've got my acupuncture tomorrow. Wish me luck. Once I get my little... My ouchie, my multiple ouchies, I'll be ready to hit the tennis courts with you again. Thank God. Thank God. Jason, it's been a pleasure podcasting with you guys. If you missed any of the shows last week, I implore you to go back on your Spotify application, on your Anchor application, on your Apple podcast application and listen to the wonderful songsters, Phoebe Bridgers, Grammy-nominated artists. Our chat with her was fun. Author of fake accounts, Lauren Euler, was also exceptional. We're bringing more podcasts to you all.

fucking week long the tote bags have been shipped out we have some new shit on deckington uh we're making a lot more uh of the mud uh we'll be at your local purveyor um you know mud 2.0 coming to a air one near you mud 2.8 coming to your local larder um and uh yeah we're gonna shut your provision your local provisional shop down bitch Yeah, your little local boutique grocery store where your mom says it's too expensive, that's where you can find mud. And also, don't forget to listen to How Long Gone Radio. Great episode. We covered the new Drake release. Damn, we didn't even talk about Drake today because we talked about it so much on How Long Gone Radio. But yeah, the new Drake release sucks, but you figure that out. That's the CliffsNotes, but go listen to How Long Gone Radio only on Spotify, and you can really hear us get into it, into it. You know what I'm saying? And then you can listen to it, too. That's the beauty of Spotify. All right, Jason. I love your work, bro, and I hope the knee feels better. I can't wait to get back on the court with you, and don't eat anything that I wouldn't eat today, okay? You got it. I'm going to keep it real clean. It's going to be gluten-free pasta tonight. I don't like this. You already know. Lentil boys. I'll talk to you later. Bye-bye. Bye.