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Jason, I'm coming live to you from a beautiful fall day in New York City. Leaves are changing. The sky is blue. The temperature is just a bit nippy. Perfect for a nice light overcoat to really get your layering on. What's going on with you? I like whenever you start a podcast, you go, oh. You know, that's like the sound that you make when you have to pick something up off the ground. This podcast is me picking you up off the ground over and over. No, no, no. This is some old guy's rule swag going on right now. Oh, I see. Fellas, you ever have to get up off the chair and be like, oh, my bones. My bones. You ever drop something and have to pick it up, fellas? Fellas, that's the worst. That's why I have a caddy out on the golf course. I can't be picking up those little tees off the ground. Fuck I look like. But anyway, I just finished foam rolling my wet little body. Foam rolling quarters. I got a nice little smoothie. I got a nice little coffee. Wow, that nice. This is a great, yeah, because it's a little early for you, but not too early. No, it's 9 a.m. I already did my grown man dog walk around the neighborhood, please believe. How long does that walk usually last? Obviously, if you have no obligations. No obligations, I would say it's usually about an hour. An hour? Yeah. You ever walked for an hour? Jesus Christ. Yeah, I've walked for an hour to get to a destination. I don't walk around in circles picking up shit. That's crazy. I'm not walking in circles. You know that I'm a root slut. R-O-U-T-E, not R-O-O-T. I know, your hair is perfectly dyed. Wave check. No, I am a root slut as it pertains to, you know, beats. uh sweet potatoes and other tubers do you use ways on your dog walk or you just freestyle no i go i go freestyle usually off dumb but if sometimes i like to do a little cosplay and we'll go put the um the puppers into the car and then drive to a new neighborhood

and just walk around and explore new houses to shit on. Oh, my God. This is the most depressing thing I've ever heard. I can't believe that an hour of your time a day is walking a dog. I'm shocked. I was just listening to Judd Uptow. I was listening to or reading something about Judd Uptow. He said that in COVID, he just started walking, and he does two hours a day. The whole point of it is there's no real destination. You just kind of go. And that's where your ideas come from. That's where real conversations happen. Whenever you and I used to go hiking, remember that? Yeah, hiking is exercise. Walking is walking. Okay, okay. So for some people, walking is also exercise. You're like LeBron level fitness. So you're in the minority here, not the other way around. So you'll have to sit this one out and take this L. No, no, look, I know it's good. I know it's good for you. I get it. It's for the mental, bro. And it's also a great stretch to just walk around. No, I think the benefits are all real. I just don't look at that. I don't have to explain walking to you, Chris. It's not very efficient use of time is all I'm saying. But I guess the thing with dogs is if you don't do that, then they're too hyper and they bother you at home. Is that how it works? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They need to move just the same as you. And imagine if you could only go to Barry's whenever. Alex wanted to take you there. Could you imagine a world like that? i can't yeah see see chris i don't like the plastic bags you guys use either that's not very good for the environment ever thought about that it seems like it seems like no no no it's a cheap shot well i just see it so basically having a dog is not sustainable is what i want to say that's what it seems like no absolutely not it's a massive waste of money yeah your carbon footprint because of these dogs i mean you have two because you're extra psycho so that's doubling the carbon footprint you're basically taking a private jet every day extra psycho yeah it's tough it's tough but you know i like it because you go out you get the blood pumping i don't bring a coffee cup the way you like to imagine i think you probably oh you bring like a tasteful tumbler of some kind like a yeti or maybe the yeti with my production company's logo on it they gave this to us isn't that nice yeah you you wasn't at the wrap party with me bitch um well that's i'm glad you i'm glad you've moved your body today i've also moved my body today um but i had a big

I had a big day of walking actually yesterday. You're a flip-flopper Biden style. No, it was to a destination though. So that's the difference. So you walked all the way from your house to ALD? What was going on there? No, I just had to tap in with the broskies. You know what I mean? No, I walked to Chelsea to look at some art. And then I was prepared to walk even further. What was his name? There's a few. You may have heard of them. John Chamberlain, Donald Judd, Bryce Martin, Stanley Whitney. You probably haven't heard of them, actually. Wow, look at all these white names. Don't make this about race. Hey, you made dog walking about carbon footprint. Carbon paw print. That's true. That's what something exactly. Carbon paw print is something I'm going to research and coin. So get ready for the white paper. It's time to take down big. Big Poochie. Big Poochie? That sounds like a drug dealer's name. Free Larry Hoover, Big Poochie, all those guys. They think I'm Big Poochie? We'll get to the Drake, Kanye, Larry Hoover concert in a minute. Squash the beef like a tartare, baby. Sorry, go ahead. I go to Chelsea Market to get a 9th Street Espresso because they have that in Chelsea Market. I'm surrounded by tourists. It's a little rough. I get a text from a friend of the show, Pia. She's like, what's up? We'll pick you up. I'm in New York City. I'm in New York City. So I basically walk outside and then get picked up in the new Bentley SUV in a nice dark green. So the outside of the Bentley is a hunter green, not the inside. Yeah, the inside is, I believe, a caramel leather. I don't remember exactly. Peanut butter? Outside? Outside grass. Inside peanut butter, outside wheatgrass shot, two ounce. Exactly. That's not bad. We went uptown. We went to the row, had to tap in. But then we had kind of an issue because we went to Ralph Lauren. Pia bought Carmela a beautiful Christmas outfit, et cetera. I see no issues so far. So then we're like, oh, let's go to Bemelman's. They wanted to have a drink. I obviously love.

uptown on a saturday afternoon beautiful day outside and we get there you you're there for the nut mix at the bar i'm there for the nut mix and so we throw the keys to the you know we throw the keys to the doorman he keeps the bentley truck up front as you know don't scratch it four eyes that's what i tell him over at there's there's a line you know at the bar and i'm like What the fuck is, what is this? Like, you know, I knew it was. This is daytime. Yeah, it's 3.30. I know it's like a, you know, obviously it's turned into like a mega tourist attraction, which I understand, but it's 3.30 in the afternoon on a Saturday, and it's looking like an hour in front of us, okay? An hour to just get in and get a drink? An hour to sit down and have a cocktail. Que cazzo fare? That's what they say. As you know, I'm a cash carrier. Oh, no. And I'm feeling, you know, I'm feeling. loose you know what i mean you did not you did not say i know we can't get a table but can my good friend abraham lincoln get one no this is this is so funny i can't believe how funny this is so david is like on his phone p is everybody's kind of having a meltdown because we're like we just can't believe this it's like you know every The 15 people that came in for the weekend from fucking Dallas are just going to wait in line. I'm a New Yorker. I can't do this. But I want to be nice about it. This is beneath you guys. It's a little bit beneath us. So I pull out 520s, mosey up to the front, and I palm them. This is so funny. It's so funny. I palm them to the door guy, and I go, maybe, I was like, yeah, I know this line is long, but hopefully this will help. And he's like, Oh, thank you. Nice to meet you. It won't help, but I appreciate it. And just kept the money and didn't let us in. Oh, no. It's the coolest. It's honestly the coolest behavior I've ever. I was like, that's the best money I've spent in years for the story. It's amazing. This is straight out of a Seinfeld episode. It's so good. Textbook out of a Seinfeld episode. It's so good. Yeah, it's so good. And thank God you're so rich that you can make a $100 oopsie-daisy and it doesn't really affect your day. Because a young TJ, if I was doing that too,

impress a dame or something over at the Bembleman's bar, I lose a hundred bucks. This date's over. Luckily for you, Jason, when you were that age, Bembleman's didn't exist and LAX you had a plug. It's a little bit better for you. I went up to the bar and I'd be like, hey, let me get three fingers of Svedka. Anyway, we were basically... I do everything for the story, of course. So that was worth every penny. That was a hundred dollars. Yes. You know, invested in how we all had a giggle. Yeah. So did you stick around and eventually wait it out? Did you guys bounce? We went across the street to the Mark where, uh, another classic uptown hotel, but the scene up here. So the scene uptown is absolutely insane. Like we go to the Mark and there's like a fucking, you know, like off duty New York city, lug head cop working the door of a bar. Like a tiny little hotel bar. What the hell? And we're like, hey, what's up? We just wanted to get a drink. He's like, yeah, we're fully committed tonight. We're fully committed. I'm like, it's 4.30 p.m. on a Saturday, and it's a bar. We're not at Le Bernardin. You're not fully committed. Yeah, who says fully committed at a little bar? It's such bullshit. So then we're waiting, and he's like. yeah i just just gotta wait you know you just have to wait so we waited for like 30 minutes and eventually you know after checking our vaccine cards and ids they let us in to stand at the bar to stand at the bar and i'm sure i didn't obviously i didn't look at the prices because i wasn't drinking but i'm sure this is a 25 cocktail kind of establishment yeah yeah i mean okay so anyway it was what is happening what is happening i think what's happening is that these hotels were fucked for so long And now the only people that are going to them are rich people. And there's a lot of rich people that want to be out in the world, and they haven't been able to be, and they're just all going at once. Yeah, but rich people don't wait. I mean, you guys can't be the only people who are getting the we're fully committed. No, no, of course not. And you guys are pulling up. You guys are wearing cashmere in a fucking Bentley, and they're like, sorry. They don't care, bro. They don't care. Our money is apparently not long enough.

Damn, this would never happen in Glendale. No, it wouldn't. You could pull up to Dentai Fung anytime and wait for two and a half hours. It's nothing to wait two hours. Dentai Fung is always fully committed, Chris. Come on. That's a low blow. So this lughead fucking cop is basically talking to a 17. It's a lughead cop and a 17-year-old girl running this operation where the rooms are $1,000 a night. It's insane. It's insane. The 17-year-old girl reads a script to us, and we're just all looking at her like, dead in the face like yeah i know what you're saying but like this is stupid come on uh yeah well i mean remember i it was a it was a couple months ago i was ranting about about service remember when i was in new york and we went to the movie theater and that was that whole thing it sounds like you're experiencing some of this as well where we don't have any the service industry where people gave you actual service has been removed from the world man it just doesn't there's no good help is not hard to find it is impossible to find no it's it's and i mean it's honestly it's pretty crazy and these are places that you know arguably are known for service i mean you know what i mean it's like that's kind of part of the deal yeah that's kind of the whole point because there's people out there who's like i have a lot of money and i love being treated well at a restaurant and when you go to a nice restaurant and they treat you well You got a customer for life. You keep coming back. That's just the whole vibe. But then as soon as that goes away, as soon as you start being treated poorly, the oysters don't taste quite as fresh. No, exactly. It all starts fading. You can never compromise that. And the more restaurants I go to, the more I'm experiencing that. I can't go to any new restaurants. The service is just going to be really stupid. I was really toughing it out. I was really bummed. And then, of course, then I have to go back downtown to have... have dinner with eric jacquine in the neighborhood and you know of course it takes you know an hour you're gonna have to either leave new york or learn how to start cooking chris because well that's i mean i don't know if you have you're such a busy guy i don't know if you have time to wait around at dr clark all day chris no i don't i mean that's probably a place where they would actually take care of me like the fucking human being that i am the respect that i deserve you can't get any respect in this town

Rodney Dangerfield voice. I know Emhoff. I know Emhoff. Where's my booth? The best part was that when they picked me up in the Bentley truck, I'm like, you know, I'm in the backseat. We're catching up and Pia's drinking. There's a to-go Aperol Spritz. So a road soda. Mommy needs her bottle as well. Mommy needs her juice. Yeah. So it was a big Saturday in... in in manhattan for me in the in the big apple i actually did a little road soda just yesterday chris what was it it was uh it was it was your your boys two robbers coffee their their happy coffee hard seltzer cold brew because that's caffeinating you so you felt like it was fine well it because it really doesn't look like it just looks like you're buying like a cold brew coffee you know like a nitro cold brew from whole foods or whatever so there's nowhere on it where it says like This has alcohol on it. In small letters, it'll say like hard seltzer or whatever. But either way, you know, I was able to just kind of drive around. I didn't get arrested. But like, I didn't feel drunk. I didn't feel like I was doing anything wrong. It's kind of like. stealing from whole foods you're like come on guys yeah yeah because the prices are just so astronomical it's just it's just you know if i don't do it somebody else is going to i know that's how you feel tj yeah you guys should be lucky that i'm the one who's doing this but but speaking of getting turned up and and fitness chris we were we're talking a couple days ago i i was recently uh experiencing something that was very new to me but is very old to you which is Pre-workout powder. Yeah. Welcome to the dark side, baby. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Squarespace. Obviously, Jason, you and I spend a lot of time on the World Wide Web. So do our peers, our listeners, our friends, our colleagues. Obviously. Maybe even your parents if they're freaky. And if you're doing anything in the world. writing, taking pictures. I do topless boxing. You need a website. Exactly. A website that works, that does what it's supposed to do, that allows you to be creative, but also business-minded. Jason, there's one place to go for that, Squarespace. Yeah, Chris, I'm over here. I'm modifying calculators and putting Claude inside of them so you could cheat at school. And I just want a place where I could have everything all in one place. I can have the SEO tools.

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well this is cheating in in two ways it's cheating like the actual workout fitness thing where like your body is doing things that maybe it necessarily shouldn't be able to be doing it's not like steroids or anything like that but you know yeah i felt like this is Something going on here. Yeah, you felt a little tingle. You got a little drip in the back of the throat. You know what I mean? Your mind's racing. But more so, it was cheating for a sober person. It felt like, you remember when I was drinking? No, don't do this, bitch. When I was drinking that Kratom for a while. Yeah, I remember the TJ Kratom phase. How could we forget? And it's like, this isn't heroin. And then a lot of people are like, it's pretty much like heroin. And then I was like, no, it's all good. It's all good. And this is sort of like, this isn't. It's caffeine. This isn't methamphetamines. No. And then when I drank it, I was like, I do kind of be feeling like methamphetamines. Well, I'm not saying that you are going to get hooked on pre-workout. I mean, obviously, if this is going to be a problem for you. it would have surfaced many, many CrossFit classes ago, right? No. Luckily, LeBron and Ladder is my dealer, and they keep me – I'm on the Ladder flow team where it just replenishes. It just shows up, and I'm ready. That's how much pre-workout I'm using. If you open any of my cabinets in my kitchen, it starts falling out like loose oranges and apples. Yeah, exactly. Plonking me on the head the amount of pre-workout that I have. Ay Dios mio is what I say every day. The thing about it is, Jason, much like regular drugs, it's diminishing returns. The first couple times, you're like, holy shit, I'm fucking... vibrating and then over time it's like this is this works but it doesn't feel insane you said diminishing returns but also the tolerance level obviously so does that mean that when i because when i took my first hit of that raw a1 perico i was like all right it says mix a scoop in your water or smoothie or whatever so i was like you know i'm a little bit of a i'm more of a downer guy than an upper guy so i don't like to be spracked out like you or some other people in my life so i'm like i'll do a halfer

Oh, God, you are a bitch made, bro. You did a half a scoop of pre-workout? Damn, bro. Your titties are sagging, bro. Come on now. Chris, I come from a culinary background, and rule number one in cooking, baking, anything, you can always add more. You can never take it out. So I could always have the other half of the scoop, but once I ingest the whole scoop, and if it's too far, There's nothing I can do. I was just protecting my ass. It's called being responsible. Something that you could learn. I took it and I was like, bro, I'd be geeking. The thing that happens is you don't think about what's happening. I was like, all right, I'm going to try this. Whatever. I took a half a scoop. I went and played tennis. I was hitting balls around for an hour or so, feeling good, feeling great. I was like, oh, that was nice. I feel good. And then I go home, drop Bay off. Next thing I know, I'm in the gym and I didn't even plan on going to the gym. And I was just texting you guys like, now I'm just working out. It was like six o'clock at night and I was just working out at the gym, unplanned, unscripted. And I was just like pumping iron. Thank God. And I didn't even want to or didn't plan on it. I just blinked and woke up, and I was in the gym pumping iron. I was like, okay, I'm starting to understand the pre-workout. Yeah, well, I mean, look, bro. I often get a two-a-day in in a similar way where one's tennis and one is lifting. Sure. I only take the pre-workout to lift in the morning. Yeah, well, I want some pro tips, so it's better to take it in the morning because if you take it too late, will it keep you up at night? I don't think anything affects me like that anymore because I drink a coffee in the morning, and then... I have water, coffee, pre-workout, gym, and then coffee in the afternoon before a second workout of any kind. I've got to say, coffee and pre-workout, that seems like a little bit of a party path. Is that too much? We call it candy flipping, where I come from. No, I mean, like I said, I just don't think this stuff... Coffee, I like the way it tastes. Obviously, it caffeinates me, but I think pre-workout is just a good habit to get in. If you're going to go to the gym...

I mean, bro, if you're going to go to the gym for an hour, an hour and a half, and you're feeling a little sluggish, it's just like, why go? Yeah, why not? Okay, well, then my question, next question is, if you get the diminishing returns, if the tolerance level increases, then are you upping the dose? Are you doing one scoop, two scoop, three scoop? No. My question is why, Chris? I just think that's a little extreme. You know, I've seen how that works for me. You know what I mean? As far as, you know, and it just doesn't. But it's still, I mean, it works, of course, the same way coffee works. But sometimes, obviously, depending on your body chemistry, how you're feeling, how you slept. You know, like sometimes I'll wake up and have a coffee and pow, I'm fucking, you know, off to the races. Other times I have a coffee and I feel like I'm still asleep. It just, I don't think that. It depends on the flora and fauna of what's going on inside of that beautiful bod of yours. Exactly, exactly. My body chemistry is, of course, perfect, I imagine. But I think sometimes we all get off track, Jason. I imagine. I imagine. That's what you tell the doctor when you're going in for your checkup. You're like, so what's going on? Anything feeling weird? Or how many drinks a day? You having a little coffee, cigarette? And you're like, I imagine my body should be perfect. Next question. I mean, I think that's a good way to approach it. These guys don't know anything, man. Doctors, whatever, bro. Well, I'm glad it worked for you. Yeah, it worked for me. I might load up. uh later today who knows i mean look there's no reason not to yeah i like it it feels good and and the the last thing the weird part about it is the flavor of it which i think the one i was taking is like strawberry lemonade yeah i'm familiar i would never in a million years like go to the store and buy a drink that was strawberry lemonade flavor unless it was like me drinking a snapple in 1998 or something you know like yeah yes that's just not it's just not a flavor that enters my adult body doesn't reach for that no and i'm sure you don't either no definitely not yeah the thought of just buying a strawberry lemonade is just like loco i mean no offense to our arizona iced tea sippers i'm listening right now but our palates are just more refined than the average drinker but anyways i would drink it and i'd be like low-key i kind of like this

In a weird way that the flavor was sort of like a synthesized flavor from my childhood that I couldn't put my finger on. But I was able to experience this naughty, dumb-dumb, simpleton flavor. Sort of in secrecy. It was a clandestine sip where I was like, nobody knows that this healthy pre-workout gym drink that I'm having. is low-key like nummy in a little kid candy kind of way this is interesting so you're it was weird and then i was drinking it in the car on the way to the gym and i came back into the car after the gym and my car just smelled it just reeked of this strawberry lemonade and i was low-key enjoying it and I think there's some type of interesting chemical connection going on there with what they've done with the flavors, what LeBron's doing with the flavors over there. It's playing with my emotions. I was about to say, I think it brought you back to your childhood. It gave you a warm hug, and you got your numbers up a little bit. It's a win-win. I don't see a downside to this. No downside. It had my spotty sense tingling of what's going on here. I like to always be in tune with the body and the mental. I'm luckily going to be back. by december 9th so are we going to go to this larry hoover show i think it's free is it free is there do you have to do a donation to larry hoover go fund me i mean i guess i hope they have something more sophisticated than that so this is this is like the la coliseum is that what it was i believe so which i'm not i'm not familiar with that venue and how large it is but i imagine it's quite large i think the la coliseum is where they have they had the olympics in in 84 oh i've been there before then okay It's huge. Do you see the stones there or something? We did a Tom Brown shoot there, actually. It was really crazy. Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah, the capacity there, it's the biggest stadium in LA for sure. It's 78,000 is the capacity. So I just want to be clear. There's going to be 80,000 people in a stadium. Actually, no, no, no. Rose Bowl has a little bit, has bigger. A little bit more. But still, I mean, that's, Rose Bowl capacity is 90,000. I don't know it was that big. That's crazy. That's fucking crazy. That's college football shit, bro.

It's different. Welcome to the South. South Pasadena. Do you think... I don't want to see... You know, the problem with this is it's free, so you know they're going to half-ass it. I don't know. Bro, when you go see Kanye West or Drake, the production is fucking crazy. There's no way they're going to do that level of production for a free show that they're basically doing for promotion under the guise of we're helping someone. They'll get somebody else to pay for it. It'll be all... Everyone will donate their time and everything, but also... You know, they've been beefing for all this time, and all you need is a booming sound system, a microphone that works, and people are going to be happy. Are you just saying? Where's the flying Lamborghini? I want my money back, or I want my donation back. Are you saying that we only need one mic? Is that what you're saying? All I need is one mic, is sort of the crux of this point. But I mean, it's a free concert with Drake and Kanye, the two largest. hip-hop stars in the world it doesn't matter they can do it kind of grassroots but i'm sure everyone will donate their time and their money because it's for a good cause i didn't know that the fight for larry hoover was was such a important thing yeah i didn't either i mean i know that he's like a he's an american gang leader co-founder of uh of the gds gangster disciples he's serving six life sentences in colorado So they're hoping that this concert will raise support with the efforts to free him. See, when I was growing up, Jason, we were trying to free Mumia, you know what I mean, at our shows. Now we're out here trying to free Larry Hoover. I'm sure they can get signatures and money or whatever they're trying to get by doing this, for sure. I don't think it'll matter, but they can definitely get it. It's like the two of the biggest stars in the world. The question is, will Pete Davidson be there? Pete is definitely going to be there and they're going to make him pay. I mean, but I want to know why or how or what they plan on doing with, like, if they're going to raise money and awareness for this guy who is serving six lives. Like, I don't understand what they're going to do. I think they probably want him to be free for some, you know, they think maybe he was. Oh, yeah. I mean, I know they want him to be free, but just because.

But I mean, he was in 95. He was in prison already for murder. And then there was an undercover investigation by the government. He was indicted for drug conspiracy extortion, criminal enterprising from prison. He was then arrested in jail by federal agents. Can you imagine getting arrested while you're in jail? I didn't even know that was possible. I know. So then he moved to a maximum security. federal prison in colorado found guilty on all of those extra charges so the leader of a giant gang i'm sure he's a nice guy i'm not sure what's going to happen to a guy what they're going to do to get a guy who's in jail for six life sentences no i don't really understand either maybe there's more to the story that we don't know but i don't really care obviously so i mean i know he's got he's got a 200 year sentence i mean hopefully he's a if he's a nice guy and they want him to get out We'll raise some great awareness for him. Maybe it's he's found... He's 70 years old. He's 70 and he found God in prison, maybe? And he's reformed his life and he could do more good outside than inside, but I don't know. I'm not a big jail guy, so I would love to see... Not a big jail guy. Either way, Kanye is going to sell $3 million worth of hoodies with Larry Hoover's mugshot on them or something like that. Bro, the fact... I just laugh. I mean... I've been seeing so many of the sweatsuits, like the Sunday service sweatsuits lately, which I'm like, I don't like, do you have to go to the Sunday service to buy those? Obviously not. You can buy it online. Okay. You can buy it online somewhere because it's like the ultimate basic white chick, like pre-workout uniform is. is a piece of Kanye West Sunday service merch, or I guess Astroworld merch is no longer as hot as it once was. But that used to be the go-to. You could not go to Air One in LA without seeing at least three pieces of Astroworld. For real. It was two years ago. I mean, you couldn't go anywhere. It's crazy. I couldn't go to the dang bus stop. Yeah, and also, what is going to happen with, you know, everyone is a little bit touch and go with having a massive rap music concert right now.

You know, obviously the music of Drake is much less turnt up. Maybe Drake will just do an R&B only set to kind of keep things, you know, mellow. He'll just do, he'll open with Marvin's room, really get the energy up, you know, go kind of go from there with some of his more, his more R&B leaning smashes. Yeah, that's not a bad idea. I'm sure this goes back to my theory though, that this. the Astroworld catastrophe is actually not going to change anything. This is direct proof of that. Yeah, that's true. Like they're getting 80,000 people in the stadium like two weeks after that happened. I mean, maybe there'll be like different, you know, protocol, quote unquote, but I still don't like. Yeah, well, I think Garcetti made him promise not to do anything bad and they're going to be chill about it. Hey guys, please don't. you know we just we we we're still wearing masks so the city of la can't have any more bad press if you could just if you could just make sure yeah i guess is it because it's for a good cause but also like a police officer it's not a good cause that's what i mean like you're a police officer you're like wait a minute uh maybe i don't think this is a good cause my whole job is to put criminals in jail it's kind of crazy it's kind of crazy they're getting away with it to be honest but i'm sure it's again it's it's drake and kanye it's like they're too big no one's gonna say no to them it's the the simulation at work right once again i'm seeing a lot of people talking about the simulation of when they announced that that kim kim and pete were dating it's like okay what's going on that we need to be distracted from so much that this is happening i'll tell you what i'll tell you what what do you got chris fucking courtney and travis barker that's what she's trying to distract you from she ain't trying to distract you from the world's ills they only care about themselves and that's why they're rich and cool so so did travis tell kylie like all right you got to tell kim to start fucking pete davidson or something wild because i'm getting too much heat right now i mean honestly no but not no like it's not out of the kylie's like boo that sounds crazy but i'll do it for you do it for our family i want to think that there is calculated as it seems like they are because it would be cool and it would like it would be cool well it would explain why it works because it's like actually calculated and like well thought out

But it seems insane that it would be that calculated. Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction. They've been saying that for years. Shout out to Bad Religion. We are not shouting out Bad Religion on this podcast. Thank you, but no thank you. Sorry about that. No, it's okay. I'm getting ready to cross the pond, bro. You leave tomorrow, right? No, just a few short hours, actually. Oh, just a few short hours. Okay. So you're going to go JFK to LDN. Yeah, London Heathrow, LHR. How's the lounge over there in Heathrow? Probably pretty bomb. It's pretty bomb, yeah. Unfortunately, the flight is operated by Virgin Atlantic. Not my favorite, but we'll make do. It's better than Virgin America, isn't it? I would assume so. Yeah, I would assume so. But I got my negative COVID test. So I went and got a COVID test. Let's go. And I hadn't gotten one in a while. And you have to have one to get on the plane. And then you have to get one. You have to have one once you get there. After 48 hours, you have to have one when you get there. It's a whole thing. Bollocks. So I find this place. Cho was like, oh, there's a place right near us. Go there. And then Brent Trill was like, oh, I also went there. It's called Clear MD. Bro, this shit was rickety like a damn Halloween store. It's like the walls are fake. It looks like they just grabbed any college dropout and put scrubs on them and let them shove shit up your nose. It's insane. It's insane. And this is also in Manhattan, the most metropolitan city in the world. Literally in Soho. I've been to a lot of these before. In Mexico, in Italy, you should be glad what you had. While you're over there in Europe, those dirty Europeans, when you have to get tested to come back. Oh, brother, hold on to your hat. You're going to be in Leeds. Chris, you've got to take the tube to Manchester to get the COVID test. No, so I was at the house. I got there. It's going to be corrugated aluminum walls. I'd been out all day, obviously guzzling water. I just had a nice lunch with...

old friend reguzzing the water like you're trying to beat a piss test no i know i was i had been it yeah exactly bro i gotta go take a test so you know what i'm saying i got a covet test brother all right all right all right drink this drink this i got yeah i went to the head chase nasty but it works that's how i in 48 hours best buy is gonna call and they're gonna be like all right bro you got the job i went to the head shop to buy a weird drink for a hundred dollars that flushes my system out No, I've been drinking water all day. I'd had a nice lunch with a friend of the show, Oliver El-Khatib at San Ambrose, where I downed some sparkling. I was just full of... You were fluid heavy. Yeah, I was fluid heavy. I get to the place. I have an appointment. I paid extra to get the test back faster just to ensure that I had the results. Okay, speed pass. And I was like, yeah, can I use the bathroom? And the nurse was like, no. I was like, I'm paying for a test, and this is a, albeit rickety, it is a medical office, and you're telling me I can't use the bathroom. And she was like, yeah, sorry. No public bathroom. This bitch is like, yeah, that's right. She's like, no public bathroom. So I go over to her. I got five $20 bills. I fold them up in my hand. No, so I'm sitting down waiting, and I'm just like. This is crazy. Like, what world do we live in where this person's not going to let me use the bathroom? And then I go back, and the guy who's giving me the actual test, I'm like, can I use the bathroom? And he's like, oh, yeah, sure, bro. It's the last door on the right. Damn, she must have heard of you from Twitter, and she's like, this motherfucker ain't going to use no bathroom. I was just like, damn, this is a rough day for me. Bro, I mean, when you got to go number one and you're in Manhattan. It's no joke, bro. It's really not. I usually go to Balthazar because it's like I know exactly how to get down the steps and it's central. You can walk in with purpose and confidence and get through. I just double cheek kiss. I also heard a double cheek kiss to maitre d'. Just to go to the bathroom. Your normal table, Christopher? Oh, just the piss? Very well, right this way, sir.

i was listening to to a podcast um sorry i think it was called i think it's called try this or nice try i forgot what it's called but it's uh hosted by a girl avery truffleman she's like a pod Pod producer legend. Cool name. Yeah, it's called Nice Try, but it was an episode about, this one was about bidets. There's a Toto bidet store in Manhattan, and I guess there's legend and lore that they have a bathroom in there that's technically for trying out this Japanese bidet toilet, but it is a fully functioning toilet that does work. So if you are in the city, And you are able to sort of walk in with confidence and purpose. You know, you don't have to use the Starbucks on, you know, 149th Street or whatever it is. You can go into this Toto. And if you kind of ask nicely and you have the right kind of swag, you can. That's interesting. I'll keep that in my little Rolodex. Thank you for that. Yeah, you know, just for our, you know, I know a lot of our listeners are in from NYC based on our show or ticket sales over there at the Bowery Ballroom. We have a pretty, we have a pretty. piss forward listener you know so yeah our fan base likes to piss you know what can i say well i think it's because they hydrate you know they're smart about hydration yeah they're um they're water-pilled there are some there are some downsides to that though chris you ever heard about piss maxing speaking of downsides piss maxing that's where you drink uh the maximum amount of water that you can hold or handle and then you you know in turn In theory, you should be able to piss the maximum amount of piss that your body can piss. What are you talking about? Why is this a thing? I mean, why is everything a thing? This is 2021. There's no rules. Where do you find this shit, Jason? Like, what do you do all day? I do the same exact thing as you, bro. I look on Instagram. Yeah, I guess that is true. I guess that is true.

But that just seems, I don't see, I think our content ingestion is quite different. It has a little bit of incel energy. A lot of the stuff you're into does, which makes me question a lot of things about you personally. And I hate to do that. I'm not an incel. No, I know. I know you're not. But you're more interested in some of the, you know. the readings and teachings of the incel community than i am you're not false you know i i just and i know you're just exploring or whatever but it's it's pretty i i would say back off it back off okay pump the brakes on that one yeah i you know as as you get older you you want to know what you know the the youth are doing keeping up with with what the kids are doing and a lot of the kids are doing really bad stuff so it's good to look at it from afar like one of your little Chelsea art galleries, but then go home to the safety of your conservative homestead in the Lower East Side. Speaking of, I guess we have to talk about Thanksgiving. Well, I'm going to a bomb-ass Friendsgiving this afternoon. That's what I wanted to talk about, is how pathetic Friendsgivings are. I think that leaning into Friendsgiving in an ironic way is not only a poor excuse for trying to enjoy a dumb thing like Friendsgiving, but also I think if you are celebrating Friendsgiving in earnest because you are separated from your family and you do enjoy gathering. and eating food and hanging out with people, then it's not really a bad thing, but it's easily turned into something terrible. Pretty interesting, Jason, because I love gathering. I'm mad on eating food, but you do that in a restaurant where people can cook, and you do it year-round when there's not... murder and gross food attached but also i don't think we should celebrate any holidays you know my stance on that but i also that's true all holidays are sus all holidays are sus and are only set forth by a capitalist agenda and i'm blaming hallmark i'm blaming target i'm blaming amazon i'm blaming walmart but also you are a capitalist so

There is that. Yeah, but I mean only when it reflects my personal wallet. I don't need it to be shoved down my throat. Okay, so I agree with you. Like a slice of turkey, like a slice of dry turkey. Me as well, Chris. I do not need an excuse or a reason or the Hallmark card company to tell me now it's time to gather with my loved ones and eat some bad food that's all brown and tan. But, you know, some people out there like to cook and they like to show off their wares and offerings with their friends and they like to gather. I know you like to read kinfolk and stuff like that. So there's a lot of that kind of energy going on and it can be abused. It can go one way that's bad and it can go another way that's cool. But some people are like, I've been working on this Alison Roman buttermilk mashed potato recipe. You know, I've been sous-vying my turkey and I'm going to make a turkey porchetta out of it or my gravy recipe from my Meemaw who just passed away. I need to make it for her or else, you know. Oh, don't bring dead Meemaw. Don't bring dead Meemaw into this. Meemaw's coming out, bitch. And try to pull my heartstrings. Like, you think I'd give a fuck if Meemaw made gravy? I don't give a fuck. My backyard has a pomegranate tree and I'm up to my gills in pomegranates. What am I going to do with these? I have to cook a bunch of... butternut squash and put it all over it with some lemonade. There's a lot of people who have a lot of needs out there and Friendsgiving is going to help them. Look, I'm excited. If I was in LA, I'd probably be going to this gathering that you're going to. What would you show up with? I would show up with probably a bottle of wine. You'd show up with a $39 bottle of wine. That would be delicious, wouldn't you? A $39 bottle of wine and then a meal for me to eat. You'd show up with an urban... one of those urban bowls from the airport where it's just in a little glass tube i would rather have an urban bowl from the airport that i get out of a vending machine than any food any food that's on a thanksgiving menu you show up to thanksgiving where everyone is eating this beautiful you know all the producers from cookbook dear dana has been whipping up her fucking moroccan tabouli all day long and you're like you know what

Some kale was chopped up by some stinky bitch somewhere in Denver three days ago. Yeah, that's what I want. Inside of a plastic mason jar. I'm about to eat that instead. That's kind of where you're at. And that's why you're a cool guy, Chris. Look, I've been over to Decatur's house at least twice and ordered M Cafe to the house to eat while you guys ate whatever you were eating. That's true. I've seen it. I just don't understand why we have to force people to do things they don't want to do to celebrate. I would love to hang out with you guys. I don't need to have bad food attached to it. I'll just order something and enjoy myself and enjoy the company of my friends. I think you found out a way to hack your way through life. But I think the difference is everybody thinks that they want to do this stuff. And then once they're actually in it, then they remember like, oh, I actually hate doing this. But you sort of forget and trick yourself every year of like, oh, maybe this year will be different. maybe my thanksgiving will be cool maybe whatever but good luck good luck you know it almost never works out you have the presence of mind to look forward and to know that like this is a fool's errand obviously this is all gonna suck ass and it always does always does especially if you have if you have to hang out with your family those people are the worst well enjoy yourself but i i did when you asked what i brought it reminded me i went to a a party on friday a hot a hot party How hot was it? I mean, it wasn't actually physically hot, but it was Matt and Gabe who built the How Long Gone website. They share a space with this guy, Jason Ryder, and they had a party. It was a studio? A studio party, but Jason was doing a full-on, pretty crazy Korean barbecue spread over an open flame outside on the patio. Oh, wow. But the point is, I didn't know if it was a party you bring something to or you don't bring something to, but I did stop and pick up a bottle of 818. Really? It went over pretty well. Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, no one's going to be mad at some tequila shots, right? Well, there was a bottle of Esplan on the table, which kind of reminded me of tour. So I did throw it away and just kind of... Get that piss out of you. I just threw it away and put the 818 kind of front and center. And then somebody brought... God, could you imagine if you went into a party and you walk in...

And there's a bar set up and there's wine and champagne and a little tequila. Somebody brought a cool Japanese whiskey. And then you just see a guy take a full plastic is still on the cap. Yeah. And you just see the Esplan bottle and you just grab it and throw it straight into the trash can. That was me. If I walked into a party and saw that, I'd be like, this is the coolest party I've ever been to already. But there was, and then somebody brought some, it looked like somebody brought some Casamigos later in the evening, which I, that I feel like is able to sit beside 818 confidently on the, on the self-serve bar. They've earned their place at the table. I let, I let 818, I let Casamigos live to breathe another day. you know um but it was fun being in a party saw a lot tapped in with a lot of the homies it was it was um you know we don't have that kind of thing in la really parties yeah not in the same way you know what i mean like people actually look people actually looked cool and stuff yeah parties in la it's just like oh thank god i'm going to go to a place where i'm gonna drink and i don't have to dress up this is like a great and i can bring my shitty ass kid or something yeah i can bring my dog and my two kids uh in my volvo while wearing my um sunday service you know my dog has a helmet too hey lay my dog got a helmet too i mean no my dog my bark dog my dog has a helmet because his canine skull is still developing it's soft still developing soft he's got a soft canine skull yo shout out to shout out to fritz my favorite helmeted child Oh, yeah. Fritz is the only Hamilton child I recognize. But go. I was supposed to go to Dinosaur Junior last night, but I just didn't have it in me. I just did not have it in me, man. I'm so. Yo, back on your old guy's rule swag. Well, I saw Kevin Morby in Hamilton, Lighthouser, earlier this week. So I'd been, you know, and it was great. And, you know, I was getting my little rocker on with friend of the show, Kobe. That's nice. I just go into Brooklyn on a Saturday after being uptown. It's the culture shock would have been too much. Yeah. To go from Bemelman's to Brooklyn's.

Unless you got the helicopter. I don't really understand how it's going to logistically work out. Well, I mean, that's not up to me. You know what I mean? I just kind of, I just sent some email and the helicopter shows up. I don't know if there's a place. I don't know if there's a place to land a helicopter in Brooklyn, maybe. It's kind of overpopulated now. I don't think you can just put it down on Bedford anymore. It's like I look at New York and it's not the same one I recognize. Back in my day, you used to be able to put a fucking helicopter down right on Bedford, right in front of the American Apparel store. Now they probably don't even have one. You know where that Apple store is? That used to be my landing pad. I'm pissed off, personally. It used to be different. New York used to mean something. Yeah, I feel like we're watching a documentary. About Mapplethorpe and what's her name? Patty Smith. What? Patty Smith. Well, yeah, a little bit of that. And then who's the... What's her name? The book reader. Oh, Fran? Yeah, Fran Leibold. I feel like we're Fran Leibold's talking about... The book reader. The book reader. Who's that old bitch? I was watching... She writes books. Who's that book reader? Oh, that's funny. So Fran, you know, I was watching, you know, Fran was talking about on, when I was watching that documentary about booksellers, she was talking about how, you know, she could never throw a book away that's sacrilegious because it's like such a treasured, precious artifact. And then also she could, it was like a huge pet peeve of hers when she would see somebody. who would not sort of treat a book with this perfect respect. Like if you ever had, you know, crumpled pages or you used it as a coaster or something like that. Do you agree with her on this? Because I think it's fucking stupid. I've never thrown away. Well, not so much the throwing away parts, but more so of like having to, having to keep this physical book that cost you, you know, $13 that you read. And then that's it. Like having to. keep it in this pristine mint condition like a pair of my fucking foam posits or something like that that's gonna go on stock i don't agree or disagree i mean i kind of like i keep i like to keep my shit crispy but that's my approach to life no matter are you whatevs on this subject yeah i mean i like my shit crispy whether it's my foams or my tomes you know what i mean well what i was because i was i was thinking before of like all these things in our life that we purchase

that are that are sort of to be used yeah yeah and that could be that could be a book that could be furniture that could be clothing they should be used i agree when we were you know our episode coming up this week when we're talking about you know like the well-worn clothing or larry david's towels being more absorbent and like i you know i'm looking at this couch in my living room and i know that you know after like after years go by you'll it'll have some wear and tear it won't look as new the leather will be different and maybe they'll be you know it won't be as pristine as it was before but also at some point i will sell this couch or get rid of it or whatever and then get a new couch and then i'm looking at a i'm looking at a book and like a book is meant to be read it's meant to come with you it's a part of your life i think she's you know i bring a book into the sauna well that's gross that's gross that's a different it just looks you know like i want a book when i'm done reading a book i want it to look like it's been read Because what else am I going to do with it? Am I going to sell it? Why do I need to preserve the value of this thing that I'm going to consume? You pass it on to another friend who likes to read. No, I understand what you're saying. I think there's a fine line. There's a fine line where to me it's like, I'm not going to really beat something up and dog ear everything just to do it. but but i i agree i want to look but you're not going to keep it wrapped in plastic no in like a hermetically sealed no no no no no no i only do that with my weed i don't know if it's like a mentality of growing up with nothing where like your parents are like we have to keep the couch wrapped in plastic because this is going to be the only couch we have for the rest of our lives or like we have to like make one day we're going to sell this so we have to like keep it perfectly preserved but then it's a little bit like if you sell a used

book you know you're gonna get fucking two dollars for it whether or not it's in a good condition or bad condition it's just what it is maybe the kind of books you're reading because like your copy of sapiens that you got from barnes and noble isn't isn't worth isn't worth much first edition sapiens yeah you have a first edition of sapiens first edition sapiens with the error watermark a lot of people don't have that what's the like love language book Oh, which one? I mean, there's so many. No, but there's like the famous one. There's like the famous one that's like what kind of partner you are or whatever. You know what I mean? That's what you have. You have the first edition Kindle edition that you sold the NFT of. There's the five love languages, how to express heartfelt commitment to your mate. I think that's it. You definitely have that first edition signed by the author. TJ keeps the score. First edition. That's for all my wounded shorties out there. My wounded shorties. Yeah, all my wounded shorties out there, both physically and emotionally. Keep your head up. You know what I'm saying? I got in a little hot water online yesterday. I got to write a sexy version of that book called Dat Body Keep the Score. Okay, sorry. You got in trouble for talking shit on NFTs? Crypto Mafia came for you again? Well, no. I made fun of this NFT that's like a hype beast cartoon. I don't know if you saw it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that. One of the... It's just like a cartoon who has a Supreme bag. It's a cartoon who's wearing a Prada bucket hat, an off-white jacket, a Chrome Hearts necklace, Gucci jeans, Yeezys, and a Supreme Louis Vuitton duffel bag. A drawing that a 13-year-old would make in art class about what a badass sneaker guy would wear. I make fun of it, and then halfway through, I'm looking through my Menchies, and the guy who is... responsible for it is someone i've known for a long time and like like i like like him and respect him and i think you know I think it's funny, but I also think that I'm just like, bro, you're going to make more money than me. So what's there to talk about? This is what people do now to get rich. So did he come for you? No, no, he didn't come for me, but I think he just wanted me to know. He's like, oh, bro, by the way, I drew this. I don't know if he drew it. I think he's responsible for selling it or whatever. What are the chances of him listening to this podcast right now?

50 50 60 okay okay but i like i like him a lot and it's not it's just like to me i would do obviously i will do almost anything for money so i understand the mentality of like i'm interested i won't do that i'm interested in this culture and i know that this will work like go get your bread bro if you're making a bunch of money off of you know nfts like that i would normally say that that as a dick that's going to stay dry ain't nobody going to suck that dick even if you are able to afford dinner at salt bay's restaurant but someone will suck your dick if you make a bunch of money from making an awful nft but is it going to be a mouth that you want probably not great question another great episode of how long gone in the books well and then somebody somebody else was like somebody else was like yeah well you made that stupid nft blah blah i'm like bro do you think i wanted to do that like do you think i think that's cool you fucking idiot like are you new here it's just it's just stupid and funny that's the whole thing about all this shit it's stupid and funny and people are taking it seriously and that's the problem yeah you can make you can make money doing this and not think it's serious and it's life-changing and it's like revolutionizing currency yeah i guess coming that's the equivalent of me talking shit on alec monopoly Or Mr. Brainwash. And then somebody's like, yeah, but you like Rothko. He's also an artist. And you're like, eh, it's not the same. No, totally. I just think that it's like, if you're going to do something like this, no matter who you are. Rothko's bad too, but that was a bad example. I should have used Banksy. You have to understand that people are going to be resistant to this because it's not aesthetically pleasing. I've never seen one that's aesthetically pleasing. That is true, but also people have hitched their wagons to this as their only way out in the world, and they're going to take it very personal when somebody like you, whose words have weight in the cultural zeitgeist, they're going to feel the need to defend it instead of taking it in stride. Because it's new money. If they really were a swaggy person and...

And you're like, hey, I'm like a multimillionaire from making these dumbass JPEGs. And somebody talks to you. You should be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Suck my dick. Here's a screenshot of my Coinbase broke boy. That's what I want. That's what you should be doing. But they're still operating in the incel mindset. I think it's a new, I mean, again, this guy is like an adult man that's been very successful. That's what's so interesting about it is that this isn't. This isn't like a 22-year-old. That's not who's... This thing spans a lot of... I unfortunately know a lot of adult men well into their 40s, maybe 50s, who make a lot, a lot, a lot of money off of the dumbest, ugliest digital art ever created by man. And they were never cool to begin with. But they're still going to be waking up in the middle of the night being like, I'm rich, but my wife sucks. my life is fucking stupid and i have a bunch of cause sculptures in my hallway and hopefully they'll be like you know what chris and jason those guys did it the right way and then they that's when they take that then they hit that fentanyl a little too hard jump off the balcony we got rich from the really cool thing of podcasting so that's gonna yeah it's it's similar but at least there's no yeezys on this not yet at least Okay, Jason, how long gone? Another one-on-one in the books, live from New York City, live from Glendale, California. We're back next week with many episodes. Middle of the week, we have one of our new friends, a French slash British fashionista model and influencer and fashionista, Camille. sherry air by way and uh we're recording one episode this week in from from across the pond actually but that's the thanksgiving special so i'll save that and for for our listeners who are cooking thanksgiving this this week don't do anything funky don't do anything weird just make the food regular the only thing you should be adding to your turkey

mashed potatoes anything is just salt baby don't fuck it up with some dumb ass shit don't fuck it up with some dumb ass shit and we did the album uh pre-order is up on jack jaguar.com we'll be announcing uh our own pre-order with a t-shirt bundle designed by sam jane soon yeah and thanks to everyone for for buying the uh buying the album already on the pre-sale Yeah, and stay tuned for that bundle coming out soon with some cool shirts. And what else do we got? And I think we're going to – some of the tour merch that we had for sale only at the live shows, I think pretty soon we're going to be putting it up. so people can buy it from all over the world unless you live in Russia. There's a little bit left, and Jason was told to clean out the garage, so he does what he's told. All right, how long gone? No, we had to reprint it all because we sold so much of it, Chris. Oh, I'm sorry. I always get so confused. I'm not really a numbers guy. You know that, Jason. Don't worry. Luckily, I can edit this all out. How long gone, baby? Thank you, and we will talk to you soon. Sometimes you make me say Some things, they never end Some things, some things, some things They're always.